Comments on: Communion - Not Accomplishment http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/ trying to nail down the shifting signifiers Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:20:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: arthur http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2761 arthur Sun, 07 Oct 2007 19:45:17 +0000 http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2761 tony- think you are right that connecting to God would compel us toward others as well. I believe this reflects God's nature - in relationship, always reaching out. Love, it seems, MUST go outward. So, communing with God would always result in love for others (hence the 2 greatest commadments according to Jesus). tony-

think you are right that connecting to God would compel us toward others as well. I believe this reflects God’s nature - in relationship, always reaching out. Love, it seems, MUST go outward. So, communing with God would always result in love for others (hence the 2 greatest commadments according to Jesus).

]]> By: Anthony Velez http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2758 Anthony Velez Sat, 06 Oct 2007 18:04:43 +0000 http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2758 Simon, Thanks for the compliment, but I don't think that communion with God and being present in the world is necessarily a dichotomy (either this, or that). And I certainly don't think that if I was to develop a stronger communion with God that my authenticity would be undermined. In fact, I am banking that such a communion would only prompt me to become more real, and closer to the glorious creation God had in mind when he first imagined me in Christ before the foundation of the world. The fact is, I have a lot of hang-ups and a lot of shit in my soul that inhibits and or prevents me from being as real and, more importantly, loving as God desires me to be. On some level, Simon, I am sure you know this. Simon, Thanks for the compliment, but I don’t think that communion with God and being present in the world is necessarily a dichotomy (either this, or that). And I certainly don’t think that if I was to develop a stronger communion with God that my authenticity would be undermined. In fact, I am banking that such a communion would only prompt me to become more real, and closer to the glorious creation God had in mind when he first imagined me in Christ before the foundation of the world. The fact is, I have a lot of hang-ups and a lot of shit in my soul that inhibits and or prevents me from being as real and, more importantly, loving as God desires me to be. On some level, Simon, I am sure you know this.

]]> By: Simon Jones http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2757 Simon Jones Sat, 06 Oct 2007 14:39:15 +0000 http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2757 You're too tall and not podgy enough to be a monk, and too real to be a pastor so you can't give up your day job yet mate. You’re too tall and not podgy enough to be a monk, and too real to be a pastor so you can’t give up your day job yet mate.

]]> By: Anthony Velez http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2756 Anthony Velez Sat, 06 Oct 2007 01:32:02 +0000 http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2756 Roger, as far as imprecise application is concerned, I think I can make a connection between your pop song and my post. As I was reading through the song I thought that the lyrics had a strong devotional quality and that they were not too disimilar from some Xian worship songs that I have heard before. Zeroing in on the refrain, "cause it's easier - easier said than done." I hear echoes in this of struggles that I have read in various devotional writings. Also, this idea is akin to the Apostle Paul's confession in Romans 7, "the good that I want to do I don't do, but the wrong that I don't want to do is what I do". All of this is similar to the idea that I expressed in my post about being subject to the voices of culture, of being driven to do things, and of rebelling and not doing anything worthwhile. Roger, as far as imprecise application is concerned, I think I can make a connection between your pop song and my post.

As I was reading through the song I thought that the lyrics had a strong devotional quality and that they were not too disimilar from some Xian worship songs that I have heard before. Zeroing in on the refrain, “cause it’s easier - easier said than done.” I hear echoes in this of struggles that I have read in various devotional writings. Also, this idea is akin to the Apostle Paul’s confession in Romans 7, “the good that I want to do I don’t do, but the wrong that I don’t want to do is what I do”. All of this is similar to the idea that I expressed in my post about being subject to the voices of culture, of being driven to do things, and of rebelling and not doing anything worthwhile.

]]> By: ROG http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2755 ROG Fri, 05 Oct 2007 15:53:37 +0000 http://www.thedarkglass.net/2007/10/04/communion-not-accomplishment/#comment-2755 This is a romantic pop song from 40 years ago that's been running through my head. Imprecise application here, but still... Easier Said Than Done The Essex My friends all tell me Go to him, run to him, Say sweet lovely things to him, And tell him - he's the one. Deep in my heart I know it, But it's so hard to show it 'Cause it's easier - easier said than done. My buddies tell me Fly to him, sigh to him, Tell him I would die for him, And tell him - he's the one. Although he gives me a feeling That sets my heart a-reeling, Yet it's easier - easier said than done. Well, I know that I love him so. I'm afraid that he'll never know Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy Each time that I look him in the eye. They all tell me Sing to him, swing with him, And just do anything for him, And tell him - he's the one. I got a love so true But I'm sad and blue 'Cause it's easier - easier said than done. Well, I know that I love him so. I'm afraid that he'll never know Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy Each time that I look him in the eye. They all tell me Sing to him, swing with him, And just do anything for him, And tell him - he's the one. I got a love so true But I'm sad and blue 'Cause it's easier - easier said than done. Easier-er-er-er - said than done. This is a romantic pop song from 40 years ago that’s been running through my head. Imprecise application here, but still…

Easier Said Than Done
The Essex

My friends all tell me
Go to him, run to him,
Say sweet lovely things to him,
And tell him - he’s the one.

Deep in my heart I know it,
But it’s so hard to show it
‘Cause it’s easier - easier said than done.

My buddies tell me
Fly to him, sigh to him,
Tell him I would die for him,
And tell him - he’s the one.

Although he gives me a feeling
That sets my heart a-reeling,
Yet it’s easier - easier said than done.

Well, I know that I love him so.
I’m afraid that he’ll never know
Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy
Each time that I look him in the eye.

They all tell me
Sing to him, swing with him,
And just do anything for him,
And tell him - he’s the one.

I got a love so true
But I’m sad and blue
‘Cause it’s easier - easier said than done.

Well, I know that I love him so.
I’m afraid that he’ll never know
Because I (I-I) I get so timid and shy
Each time that I look him in the eye.

They all tell me
Sing to him, swing with him,
And just do anything for him,
And tell him - he’s the one.

I got a love so true
But I’m sad and blue
‘Cause it’s easier - easier said than done.
Easier-er-er-er - said than done.

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